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The Problem with Reconciliation - Shared screen with speaker view
Janet McKay, ADRIC ED
49:06
Please feel free to enable your cameras - would be great, especially for Bruce, to see your faces. :)
Michelle Phaneuf
52:57
healing
Me Réjean Michaud
53:02
Peace
Janet McKay, ADRIC ED
53:05
putting things right
Kimberly Jones
53:05
reparations
Lea Kivi
53:07
making amends
Poirier, Ghislain (VitaliteNB)
53:07
repair
Linda Ippolito
53:07
reconnection/restoring relationship
Rosalia Panarello
53:07
Forgiveness
Poirier, Ghislain (VitaliteNB)
53:09
heal
Mohammad Hafeez
53:15
to make up
Sandi Sikora
53:17
Healing
Daniel Dolha
53:18
making peace with the past and move forward
Rose Regis
53:18
Forgiveness
MD Mongeon
53:23
Acknowledging the facts we may not have been aware of
Mélissa Lormil
53:24
Reconnect
vicki
53:24
Mending
Louise Pelletier
53:25
A meeting of hearts and minds
Deborah McIntosh
53:28
Making people whole.
C. Low
53:30
Listen with humility to learn
Poirier, Ghislain (VitaliteNB)
53:30
taking ownership
Jess
53:31
Listening/learning
Paul Nicholson
53:31
Learning the truth
rainbow mckay whiteside
53:33
listening and working to help healing
Michael Welsh
53:34
understanding and forgiveness
Alain Lamarche
53:37
Understanding
Rosalia Panarello
53:38
forgiveness
Simon Ross
53:41
To acknowledge the historical relationship between Canada and Indigenous peoples and how we can collaborate and take action to move forward with reconciliation.
pauladavies
53:43
reparation
Mark Johns
53:49
relationship building, respect, acnowlegement
Nicole
53:50
accountability.
William Murphy-Dyson
53:52
Making amends through understanding
Susan Kennedy
53:56
Restoring relationships, after acknowledging harm done.
Brittany
54:15
Reparation/mending
Sean O'Connor
54:21
owning up to wrongs, historic and now, in words and actions, and starting a conversation about a way forward
Erin Thompson
54:26
self-determination feels like a prerequisite
Kim Parish
54:32
acknowledgement of wrongs committed and moving forward in a way which actions necessary change
Pamela Giesbrecht
55:50
process of continual reparation in a spirit of collaboration working toward mutuality in relationship
Bob Waldon
55:53
“Reconciliation” (today = “the place where honourable intentions go to die, and politicians go to live”
scottserson
58:14
Reconciliation is making the inherent right of self-government of Indigenous Peoples a reality in Canada.
Lindsay Mulholland
01:07:13
Reconciliation could be recognizing that we are in a collective, bewildering, nightmare which originated from colonization
Deborah McIntosh
01:14:10
To Lindsay's point above, decolonization in other countries with a colonial history has sometimes been violent, & settlers have left those countries in large numbers. How do you see this playing out in Canada?
Linda Ippolito
01:14:23
what is the second word in the title? Colonization…?
Mélissa Lormil
01:14:30
road
Linda Ippolito
01:14:36
Thanks!
Bob Waldon
01:15:06
Ryan McMahon, “Colonization Road” available on CBC Gem.
Simon Ross
01:15:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u03qLJ50bf4
Cheryl Chetkiewicz (she/her)
01:16:32
How do you stay hopeful Bruce in the face of what federal and provincial governments and bureaucrats are doing with legal processes?
Cheryl Chetkiewicz (she/her)
01:20:25
supporters and equitable partners
Lea Kivi
01:20:34
stands with you
Cheryl Chetkiewicz (she/her)
01:20:40
advocates for First Nations and rights and responsibilities
Linda Ippolito
01:20:40
trustworthy
Cheryl Chetkiewicz (she/her)
01:21:08
https://www.firstpeopleslaw.com/public-education/blog/made-of-sterner-stuffthe-problem-with-allies
Kim Parish
01:21:10
aligns with your beliefs and proactively engages to support them
Michael Welsh
01:21:17
Good allies support but do not take over.
Andrew Livingston
01:21:27
I agree with trust
Kimberly Jones
01:21:45
Doing the work to learn and not expecting Indigenous people to teach us. (I realize the irony of this given your generosity to share your experience and knowledge with us, Bruce.)
Paul Nicholson
01:23:20
Pragmatically, sometimes allyship is getting through to 'redneck relatives' in a way that doesn't lead them to dig in their heels/tune out, when this is possible at all.
rainbow mckay whiteside
01:23:46
understanding and following the lead of those most affected in action, with compassion sense of responsibility to one another
Paul Fauteux
01:26:53
What made you think of that guy as an « ally »?
Cheryl Chetkiewicz (she/her)
01:27:32
I think if we want to be allies, we need to re-learn how to be a better relation - with people, fish, wildlife, air, land - and thinking about how we actually actualize the 7 teachings of love, truth, courage/bravery, respect, honesty, humility, and wisdom in our lives and relationships!
Cheryl Chetkiewicz (she/her)
01:32:17
Shameful!
Cheryl Chetkiewicz (she/her)
01:32:31
Delete!
Cheryl Chetkiewicz (she/her)
01:33:44
It sounds like they need to do more work. If they aren't uncomfortable, you aren't an ally
Paul Fauteux
01:35:32
I think you nailed it on the head when you said « the myth of Canada the good is sacrosanct ». That is where the need of humility and acceptance is so crucial, i.e., self-reflection on the part of the non-Indigenous Canadians.
Cheryl Chetkiewicz (she/her)
01:35:50
We have a similar pattern in conservation non-profits
Paul Fauteux
01:39:43
The other cruel calculus that govts engage in is about money: it doesn’t pay politically in non-Indigenous Canada to spend money on Indigenous people.
Paul Fauteux
01:43:49
Do you agree we can’t really talk about reconciliation until we’ve talked about reparation and compensation (sorry for joining late if you covered this already).
Paul Fauteux
01:46:13
But, sadly, they still do, don’t they?
Jess
01:54:32
👏👏👏 Gov doesn’t want the legitimacy of their authority questioned and courts don’t know how. but justice for Indigenous people demands that that legitimacy is questioned, and also given up in favour of Indigenous self-determination.
Cheryl Chetkiewicz (she/her)
02:02:28
I understand Indigenous leaders have gone to the Pope or called on the Pope to rescind the papal bulls - the basis of the Doctrine of Discovery. Would this change the Canadian dialogue about reconciliation?
Cheryl Chetkiewicz (she/her)
02:03:04
https://www.afn.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/18-01-22-Dismantling-the-Doctrine-of-Discovery-EN.pdf
Paul Fauteux
02:05:39
So the TRC’s definition of reconciliation is incompatible with the SCC’s because the former denounced the doctrine of discovery and the latter upholds it?
Cheryl Chetkiewicz (she/her)
02:06:59
I listened to Murray Sinclair who speaks very eloquently this week on what the churches need to do to actually make any difference in the reality of reconciliation between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Peoples in Canada https://www.cbc.ca/listen/live-radio/1-105-unreserved/clip/15868493-reconciliation-reality-check-murray-sinclair
scottserson
02:07:19
Surely to talk a about repudiation of the doctrine of discovery Indigenous and non-Indienous governments have to come up with a stronger process to co-develop the laws and policies that would follow.
Bob Waldon
02:09:13
(Re)Conciliation…
Bob Waldon
02:09:20
1. Who has been harmed and how?
Bob Waldon
02:09:26
2. What do they need to heal?
Bob Waldon
02:09:35
3. How to we ensure it is not repeated?
Rose Regis
02:10:37
Agree
Alain Lamarche
02:10:47
It's a collective responsability
Cheryl Chetkiewicz (she/her)
02:11:05
I see that a racism
Cheryl Chetkiewicz (she/her)
02:11:08
*as
C. Low
02:12:45
Thank you Bruce. I appreciate you taking the time today to share with us.
Jess
02:13:02
Thank you!
Andrew Livingston
02:13:18
Thank you
Lea Kivi
02:13:18
Thank you, Bruce.
Shelley Stirling-Boyes
02:13:24
Heartfelt thanks.
Me Réjean Michaud
02:13:29
Thank you Bruce I really appreciated
Andrew Kemp
02:13:35
Thank you.
Paul Fauteux
02:13:37
Great way to mark the day, thank you so much.
Kim Parish
02:13:38
Thank you for speaking with us today.
Linda Ippolito
02:13:41
thank you Bruce for your insights! So important
Emma Naismith (she/her)
02:13:46
Thank you Bruce for everything you have shared
Demi (tech) Treaty 6
02:13:48
https://harbourpublishing.com/collections/bruce-mcivor/products/9780889714205
Salem
02:13:49
Thank you so much for sharing
Demi (tech) Treaty 6
02:13:53
(from Bruce)
rainbow mckay whiteside
02:13:55
Thank you so much for sharing and for the opportunity to listen, really look forward to reading your book as well
Simon Ross
02:13:57
Thank you for your time
Cheryl Chetkiewicz (she/her)
02:13:57
Thank you so much Bruce! I find your work powerful, poignant, and hopeful. I'm honoured to know you.
scottserson
02:13:58
Meegwetch!
franklin gaffney
02:13:59
Thank you Bruce, from Australia
Rose Regis
02:14:03
Thank you
Demi (tech) Treaty 6
02:14:05
https://harbourpublishing.com/collections/bruce-mcivor/products/9780889714205
Demi (tech) Treaty 6
02:14:16
(from Bruce)
Bob Waldon
02:14:16
Marsee, Bruce.
Rose Regis
02:14:21
Still a lot to be done
Mark Johns
02:14:22
Thankyou Bruce, most illuminating.
Poirier, Ghislain (VitaliteNB)
02:14:24
Great presentation Bruce. We need more people like you to educate the canadian population.
Deborah McIntosh
02:14:43
Thanks very much for your important message.
Loic Berthout
02:14:58
Thank you for sharing...A lot to process, reflect, think about...
Rose Regis
02:15:02
Sorry for all the hurtsHope healing take place